From the U.S. Government Accountability Office, www.gao.gov Transcript for: GAO Testimony: Veterans Affairs Need to Address Continuing IT Management Challenges Description: Opening Statements for Carol Harris, Director of GAO's Information Technology & Cybersecurity Team to the House Subcommittee on Technology Modernization during the oversight hearing titled: "Modernizing VA: Lessons Learned in the 118th Congress." Veterans Affairs relies on critical IT systems to manage benefits and provide care to millions of veterans and their families. We testified about VA's efforts to modernize and manage its IT. For example, after 3 unsuccessful attempts to modernize its health information system, the department is trying again. We also reported that VA's IT contracts were not always properly approved. We've made many recommendations to help VA address these and other issues. We're monitoring its progress in making these improvements. www.gao.gov/products/gao-25-107963 Related GAO Works: GAO-25-107963, Veterans Affairs: Action Needed to Address Continuing IT Management Challenges Released: December 2024 [ START ] [ Text On-Screen: ] GAO Testimony before Congress Veterans Affairs: Action Needed to Address Continuing IT Management Challenges Opening Statement by Carol Harris, Director, GAO December 12, 2024 House Subcommittee on Technology Modernization Oversight Hearing [ Carol Harris: ] Mr. Chairman. Ranking member Cherfilus McCormick and members of the subcommittee. Thank you for inviting us to testify today on VA's IT modernization, challenges and lessons learned. And I also want to take a moment to thank your outstanding committee staff. And also wish best wishes to Mr. Ellison as well. As requested, I'll briefly summarize our prior work on the department's efforts to acquire and manage its IT, as well as our work on critical factors leading to successful IT outcomes. As you know,the use of IT is crucial to helping VA effectively serve our nation's veterans. And the department's investment in IT is substantial. Over the past two years, VA has obligated over $21 billion for a range of IT products, systems and services. Unfortunately, the department's management of its IT modernization efforts continues to be high risk. This morning, I'll highlight two key points. First, we've made a total of 20 recommendations in recent reports to improve VA's IT acquisitions and management. And while VA has concurred, none have been implemented thus far. These recommendations address health care, financial management systems, IT governance, and IT procurement. For example, VA has faced long standing challenges in its efforts to deploy modern IT solutions in two critical areas. Its health information system, as well as its financial and acquisition management systems. After three unsuccessful attempts between 2001 and 2017 to modernize its health information system, VA is now on its fourth attempt, known as EHR. However, in 2023, VA announced it was halting further deployments and instead prioritizing making improvements at the five sites using the system. At that time, about 79% of users strongly disagreed that the system enabled quality care. In our 2023 report, we made ten recommendations to VA in areas such as user satisfaction, system, trouble reports, and change management. Similarly, in 2016, VA established its FMVT initiative, its third attempt to replace aging financial and acquisition systems with one integrated system. In 2021, we reported that full implementation of the new system was not expected until 2027, at a ten year lifecycle cost of nearly $3 billion. As of July 2024, full implementation was moved to 2030 and life cycle costs escalated to $7.7 billion. Our two reports made a total of three recommendations to VA on cost and schedule estimating, and its efforts to manage risks. If VA implements these 13 recommendations, along with the other seven we've made in the areas of IT governance, software licenses, and cloud computing. The Department will be in a stronger position to course correct the major IT acquisitions it has underway. And now to my final point. VA should consider all available opportunities to ensure that its IT investments are acquired in the most effective manner possible. We had previously reported on nine critical factors that have led to successful IT acquisitions across the federal government. These factors include ensuring end users and stakeholders are involved in the development of requirements, and in the testing of system functionality. That government and contractor staff are stable and consistent, among other things. These factors are common sense, but they are also easier said than done. All too often, we have found the absence of these factors, or the partial implementation of them to be the root causes of cost, schedule and performance issues found on troubled or failed IT programs. Another set of leading practices applicable here is a use of iterative development for complex IT acquisitions. Leading companies use this approach to rapidly develop complex IT products that are relevant and responsive to their users most critical needs. Iterative development essentially breaks large, monolithic IT projects into smaller, more manageable pieces so that you're delivering system functionality within weeks or months versus years. The critical factors and leading practices I mentioned serve as the basis for many of our current recommendations to help improve federal IT management. As such, VA can rely on them to help achieve successful IT acquisitions. Moving forward in the two areas I noted, it will be critical for VA to fully implement our recommendations as soon as possible. Doing so will position the Department to more effectively deliver the systems and IT operations that meet mission needs. That concludes my statement. I look forward to addressing your questions. [ End ] For more info, check out our report GAO-25-107963 at: GAO.gov