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Testimony: 

Before the Subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies, 
Committee on Appropriations, House of Representatives: 

United States Government Accountability Office: 
GAO: 

For Release on Delivery: 
Expected at 9:30 a.m. EDT:
Wednesday, March 11, 2009: 

Forest Service: 

Emerging Issues Highlight the Need to Address Persistent Management 
Challenges: 

Statement of Robin M. Nazzaro, Director: 
Natural Resources and Environment: 

GAO-09-443T: 

GAO Highlights: 

Highlights of GAO-09-443T, a testimony before the Subcommittee on 
Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies, Committee on 
Appropriations, House of Representatives. 

Why GAO Did This Study: 

The Forest Service, within the Department of Agriculture, manages over 
190 million acres of forest and grassland. The agency is responsible 
for managing its lands for various purposes—including recreation, 
grazing, timber harvesting, and others—while ensuring that such 
activities do not impair the lands’ long-term productivity. Carrying 
out these often competing responsibilities has been made more difficult 
by the increasing cost of wildland fires and the budgetary constraints 
necessitated by our nation’s long-term fiscal outlook. 

This testimony highlights some of the major management challenges the 
Forest Service faces in carrying out its land management 
responsibilities. It is based on numerous reports GAO has issued on a 
wide variety of the agency’s activities. 

What GAO Found: 

While the Forest Service has made improvements in many areas GAO has 
reported on in recent years, certain management challenges persist—with 
the agency struggling to manage a worsening wildland fire problem and 
spiraling fire costs, collect data on its activities and their costs, 
and demonstrate financial and performance accountability to Congress 
and the public. Several emerging issues facing the agency underscore 
the urgency of addressing these challenges. 

The Forest Service continues to lack strategies for using its wildland 
fire management funds effectively. In numerous reports over the past 
decade, GAO has highlighted the challenges the Forest Service faces in 
protecting the nation against the threat of wildland fires. While the 
agency has taken important steps to improve its wildland fire 
management, other key steps remain. Specifically, the agency needs to 
(1) develop a cohesive strategy laying out various potential long-term 
approaches for addressing wildland fire, the estimated costs associated 
with each approach, and the trade-offs involved; (2) establish clear 
goals and a strategy to help contain increasing wildland fire costs; 
(3) continue improving its processes for allocating funds and selecting 
projects to reduce potentially hazardous vegetation; and (4) take steps 
to improve its use of a new interagency budgeting and planning tool.
 
Program management suffers from lack of data on activities and costs. 
GAO’s work over the years points to a persistent shortcoming in the 
Forest Service’s management of its activities: the lack of adequate 
data on program activities and costs. This shortcoming spans multiple 
land management programs, including programs for selling timber and 
rehabilitating and reforesting lands that have been burned, as well as 
administrative functions such as the competitive sourcing program, 
which aims to increase competition between federal entities and private 
sector organizations. Inadequate data have hindered field managers in 
carrying out their duties and prevented the agency from understanding 
how much its activities are costing. 

Financial and performance accountability have been inadequate. The 
Forest Service has struggled to implement adequate internal controls 
over its funds, generate accurate financial information, and provide 
clear measures of what it accomplishes with the appropriations it 
receives every year. GAO’s concerns about these issues date back to the 
1990s but have yet to be fully addressed. 

Several emerging issues underscore the need for the Forest Service to 
improve its management. The evolving effects of climate change, 
increasing development in and near wildlands, the aging of the federal 
workforce, and our nation’s long-term fiscal condition likely will have 
profound implications for the agency and magnify the urgency of 
addressing these challenges. 

What GAO Recommends: 

GAO has made a number of recommendations intended to improve the Forest 
Service’s wildland fire management, strengthen its collection of data, 
and increase accountability. The Forest Service has taken steps to 
implement many of these recommendations—by, for example, improving its 
processes for allocating funds to reduce potentially hazardous 
vegetation, and issuing guidance to strengthen financial controls—but 
has been slow to take action on others. 

View [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-09-443T] or key 
components. For more information, contact Robin Nazzaro at (202) 512-
3841 or nazzaror@gao.gov. 

[End of section] 

Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee: 

I am pleased to be here today to discuss management challenges facing 
the Forest Service. As the steward of millions of acres of national 
forest and grassland, the Forest Service, within the Department of 
Agriculture, is responsible for a wide array of programs to ensure 
access to and use of the natural resources within its lands while also 
ensuring adequate protection for those lands. Carrying out these often 
competing responsibilities has presented a daunting challenge to the 
agency, exacerbated by the increasing cost of wildland fires and the 
budgetary constraints necessitated by our nation's long-term fiscal 
outlook. In recent years we have issued numerous reports on a wide 
variety of the Forest Service's activities. My testimony today includes 
findings from a number of those reports,[Footnote 1] focusing on 
management challenges in three key areas: (1) wildland fire management, 
(2) data on program activities and costs, and (3) financial and 
performance accountability. I will also discuss a number of emerging 
issues facing the Forest Service, which increase the importance of 
addressing these management challenges. 

Background: 

The Forest Service manages about 193 million acres of land, 
encompassing 155 national forests and 20 national grasslands. Laws 
guiding the management of the forests require that the Forest Service 
manage its lands for various purposes--including recreation; rangeland; 
wilderness; and the protection of watersheds, fish, and wildlife--and 
to ensure that the agency's management of the lands does not impair 
their long-term productivity. In managing its lands in accordance with 
these principles, the agency provides a variety of goods and services. 
Goods include timber, natural gas, oil, minerals, and range for 
livestock to graze. Watersheds on Forest Service lands provide drinking 
water to thousands of communities, and the national forests themselves 
offer recreational opportunities to the public, such as camping, 
hiking, and rafting. 

In recent years, appropriations for the Forest Service have totaled 
about $5 billion annually, with wildland fire management activities-- 
such as reducing potentially flammable vegetation, preparing for and 
fighting fires, and rehabilitating burned lands--consuming a 
substantial portion of the agency's budget. The Forest Service employs 
about 30,000 people and operates hundreds of regional, forest, and 
ranger district offices nationwide. 

Over the past decade, we and others have identified numerous management 
challenges facing the Forest Service and made many recommendations to 
improve the agency and its programs. While the agency has improved some 
areas, progress has been lacking in other key areas, and management 
challenges remain. Addressing these challenges is becoming more 
pressing in the face of certain emerging issues. 

The Forest Service Continues to Lack Short-or Long-Term Strategies for 
Using Wildland Fire Management Funds Effectively: 

Perhaps the most daunting challenge facing the Forest Service is the 
dramatic worsening of our nation's wildland fire problem over the past 
decade. The average annual acreage burned by wildland fires has 
increased by about 70 percent since the 1990s, while the Forest 
Service's wildland fire-related appropriations have more than doubled 
in that time, from about $1 billion in fiscal year 1999 to almost $2.2 
billion in fiscal year 2007,[Footnote 2] representing over 40 percent 
of the agency's total 2007 appropriations. As we have previously 
reported, a number of factors have contributed to worsening fire 
seasons and increased firefighting expenditures, including an 
accumulation of fuels due to past land management practices; drought 
and other stresses, in part related to climate change; and an increase 
in human development in or near wildlands. The Forest Service shares 
responsibility for wildland fire management with four agencies of the 
Department of the Interior (Interior)--the Bureau of Indian Affairs, 
Bureau of Land Management, Fish and Wildlife Service, and National Park 
Service. 

Since 1999, we have issued numerous reports calling for various 
improvements in the Forest Service's approach to wildland fire 
management. Most recently, we have focused on four primary steps we 
believe the agency, in conjunction with Interior, needs to take to 
better understand the extent of, and address, the nation's wildland 
fire problems and to help contain rising federal expenditures for 
responding to wildland fires.[Footnote 3] Specifically, we have called 
on the Forest Service to: 

* Develop a cohesive strategy that identifies options and associated 
funding to reduce potentially hazardous vegetation and address wildland 
fire problems. Despite our repeated calls for a cohesive wildland fire 
strategy, the Forest Service has yet to develop one. In 1999, to 
address the problem of excess fuels and their potential to increase the 
severity of wildland fires and cost of suppression efforts, we 
recommended that a cohesive strategy be developed to identify the 
available long-term options for reducing fuels and the associated 
funding requirements.[Footnote 4] By laying out various potential 
approaches for addressing wildland fire, the estimated costs associated 
with each approach, and the trade-offs involved, such a strategy would 
help Congress and the agencies make informed decisions about effective 
and affordable long-term approaches to addressing the nation's wildland 
fire problems. Six years later, in 2005, we reiterated the need for a 
cohesive strategy and broadened our recommendation's focus to better 
address the interrelated nature of fuel reduction efforts and wildland 
fire response.[Footnote 5] The Forest Service, along with the other 
wildland fire agencies, has generally agreed that such a strategy is 
necessary but has yet to develop one. In January 2009, agency officials 
told us they were working to create such a cohesive strategy, although 
they had no estimate of when the strategy would be completed. 

* Establish clear goals and a strategy to help contain wildland fire 
costs. In 2007 and 2008, we reported that the Forest Service was taking 
a number of steps intended to help contain wildland fire costs, 
including improving its decision-support tools for helping officials 
select strategies for fighting wildland fires, but that the agency had 
not clearly defined its cost-containment goals or developed a strategy 
for achieving those goals--steps that are fundamental to sound program 
management.[Footnote 6] Forest Service officials identified several 
documents they argue provide clearly defined goals and objectives that 
make up the agency's strategy to contain costs. In our view, however, 
these documents lack the clarity and specificity needed by officials in 
the field to help manage and contain wildland fire costs, and we 
therefore continue to believe that our recommendations in this area, if 
effectively implemented, would help the Forest Service better manage 
its cost-containment efforts and improve its ability to contain 
wildland fire costs. 

* Continue to improve its processes for allocating fuel reduction funds 
and selecting fuel reduction projects. Also in 2007 and 2008, we 
reported on several shortcomings in the Forest Service's processes for 
allocating fuel reduction funds to field units and selecting fuel 
reduction projects, shortcomings that limited the agency's ability to 
ensure that funds are directed where they will reduce risk most 
effectively.[Footnote 7] The Forest Service has taken steps to improve 
its processes for allocating fuel reduction funds, including the use of 
a newly developed computer model to assist in making allocation 
decisions, rather than relying primarily on historical funding patterns 
and professional judgment. The agency is also taking steps to improve 
the information it uses in allocating funds and selecting projects-- 
including information on wildland fire risk and fuel treatment 
effectiveness--and to clarify the relative importance of the various 
factors it considers when making allocation decisions. We believe the 
Forest Service must continue these efforts so that it can more 
effectively use its limited fuel reduction dollars. 

* Take steps to improve its use of a new interagency budgeting and 
planning tool. In 2008, we reported on the Forest Service's and 
Interior's development of a new planning tool known as fire program 
analysis, or FPA.[Footnote 8] FPA was intended, among other things, to 
allow the agencies to analyze potential combinations of firefighting 
assets, and potential strategies for reducing fuels and fighting fires, 
to determine the most cost-effective mix of assets and strategies. 
[Footnote 9] While recognizing that FPA represents a significant step 
forward and shows promise in achieving certain of its objectives, we 
believe the agencies' approach to FPA's development hampers the tool in 
meeting other key objectives. First, FPA has but limited ability to 
project the effects of different levels of fuel reduction treatments 
and firefighting strategies over time, depriving agency officials of 
information that could help them analyze the long-term impact of 
changes in their approach to wildland fire management. Second, FPA, as 
the agencies have developed it, cannot identify the most cost-effective 
mix and location of firefighting assets for a given budget. Rather, it 
analyzes a limited number of combinations of assets and strategies to 
identify the most cost-effective among them. The Forest Service is now 
beginning to use FPA to help develop its fiscal year 2011 budget 
request. We made a number of recommendations designed to enhance FPA 
and the agencies' ability to use it, and the Forest Service--in 
conjunction with Interior--has identified several steps it is 
considering taking to do so. It is not yet clear how successful these 
steps will be, however--and, further, the steps the agencies have 
outlined do not address all the shortcomings we identified. We continue 
to believe that agency improvements are essential if the full potential 
of FPA is to be realized. 

In addition to these issues, we have also reported on the Forest 
Service's difficulties funding fire suppression activities within its 
appropriated wildland fire budget; in many years, the agency has 
transferred money from other Forest Service programs to pay suppression 
costs. We reported in 2004 that such transfers between programs had 
caused projects to be delayed or canceled, strained relationships among 
land managers at different agencies, and created management disruptions 
within the Forest Service, and we recommended several measures to 
minimize the impacts of funding transfers and to improve the estimates 
on which the agencies base their wildland fire budgeting 
requests.[Footnote 10] Nevertheless, fire-related funding transfers 
continue, occurring in fiscal years 2006, 2007, and 2008--with the 
Forest Service transferring $400 million from other programs in fiscal 
year 2008 alone. 

Lack of Complete and Accurate Data on Activities and Costs Continues to 
Hamper Program Management: 

Long-standing data problems have plagued the Forest Service, hampering 
its ability to manage its programs and account for its costs and 
reflecting deep-rooted and persistent shortcomings in the agency's 
management of its activities. Without complete and accurate data, the 
agency has difficulty carrying out tasks that are intrinsic to its land 
management responsibilities--including recognizing and setting 
priorities for needed work, tracking activities, and understanding the 
true costs of its operations. Further, without an effective managerial 
cost-accounting system, the agency will have difficulty monitoring 
revenue and spending levels and making informed decisions about future 
funding needs. We have made numerous recommendations aimed at the 
Forest Service's data shortcomings regarding both activities and costs. 

Forest Service Lacks Adequate Data on Land Management Activities: 

In recent years we have identified several land management programs for 
which the Forest Service lacks sufficient data, keeping the agency from 
effectively overseeing its activities and understanding whether it is 
using its appropriated dollars most efficiently. For example, in 2005, 
we reported on data problems in the Forest Service's program for 
reforestation--the planting and natural regeneration of trees--and 
treatments to improve timber stands, such as thinning trees and 
removing competing vegetation.[Footnote 11] Reforestation and 
subsequent timber stand improvement are critical to restoring and 
improving the health of our national forests after timber harvests--yet 
the agency lacked sufficiently reliable data to accurately quantify its 
specific needs, establish priorities among treatments, or estimate a 
budget. A year later we reported on a similar shortfall in the agency's 
program for rehabilitating and restoring lands unlikely to recover on 
their own after wildland fires, noting that the agency lacked 
nationwide data on the amount of needed rehabilitation and restoration 
work it had completed for recent wildland fires.[Footnote 12] And in 
2008, we reported that the Forest Service did not maintain complete 
nationwide data on its use of stewardship contracting authority, under 
which the agency can trade goods (such as timber) for services (such as 
thinning forests or rangelands) that it would otherwise pay for with 
appropriated dollars, and can enter into stewardship contracts lasting 
up to 10 years.[Footnote 13] Although the Forest Service had recently 
updated its timber sale accounting system to include certain data on 
stewardship contracts, other data--such as the value of products sold 
and services procured through agreements rather than contracts[Footnote 
14]--were not systematically collected or were incomplete. 

Data on the Costs of Forest Service Activities Are Likewise Incomplete: 

In addition to data on its activities, the Forest Service also lacks 
complete data on their costs. In 2006, we reported that the agency did 
not have a managerial cost-accounting system in place with which it 
could routinely analyze cost information.[Footnote 15] Managerial cost 
accounting, rather than measuring only the cost of "inputs" such as 
labor and materials, integrates financial and nonfinancial data, such 
as the number of hours worked or number of acres treated, to measure 
the cost of outputs and the activities that produce them. Such an 
approach allows managers to routinely analyze cost information and use 
it in making decisions about agency operations and permits a focus on 
managing costs rather than simply managing budgets. Such information is 
crucial for the Forest Service, as for all federal agencies, to make 
difficult funding decisions in this era of limited budgets and 
competing program priorities. In 2012, the Department of Agriculture is 
scheduled to replace its current Foundation Financial Information 
System with a new Financial Management Modernization Initiative system. 
The new system is expected to incorporate managerial cost-accounting 
capabilities, but the department has delegated responsibility for 
implementation of managerial cost accounting to its component agencies. 
The Forest Service's Chief Financial Officer stated at the time of our 
2006 review that implementation of a managerial cost-accounting system 
would not be a priority until outstanding financial reporting issues 
had been resolved and that reliable and timely financial information 
was necessary before pushing to develop managerial cost-accounting 
information. Without a managerial cost-accounting system, however, the 
Forest Service will continue to have difficulty developing realistic 
and useful budgets and related cost-benefit analyses of its activities-
-essential tools for present and future land management activities. 

In addition to its shortcomings in accounting for its overall costs, 
the Forest Service's shortcomings in tracking of the costs associated 
with its timber sales program--such as obligations and expenditures for 
personnel and equipment--have been the subject of several of our 
previous reports. In 2001 we reported that serious accounting and 
financial reporting deficiencies precluded an accurate determination of 
the total costs associated with the timber sales program and, in fact, 
rendered the agency's cost information unreliable.[Footnote 16] In 
2003, we reported that it was unclear how accurately the agency would 
be able to report on the actual costs of individual work activities. 
[Footnote 17] And more recently, in 2007, we reported that the Forest 
Service tracks the funds it spends on timber sales in a way that does 
not provide the detail that many field managers, such as district 
rangers and national forest supervisors, said they need in order to 
make management decisions--for example, deciding how to allocate or 
redirect resources among sales.[Footnote 18] The agency does not track 
timber sales-related obligation or expenditure data by individual sale 
but rather aggregates these data by the programs that fund the 
sales.[Footnote 19] Neither does it track obligations and expenditures 
at the ranger district level, where timber sales are generally carried 
out, but tracks them instead at the national forest level--making it 
more difficult and resource intensive for field managers to oversee 
activities occurring in their units. 

Limited cost data also hampered the agency's implementation of the 
competitive-sourcing program, as we reported in 2008.[Footnote 20] 
Competitive sourcing is aimed at promoting competition between federal 
entities and the private sector by comparing the public and private 
costs of performing certain activities (typically those performed in 
both government and the commercial marketplace, such as information 
technology, maintenance and property management, and logistics) and 
determining who should perform those activities. Although Congress had 
limited the funds the Forest Service could spend on competitive- 
sourcing activities, we found that for fiscal years 2004 through 2006, 
the Forest Service lacked sufficiently complete and reliable cost data 
to determine whether it had exceeded these congressional spending 
limitations. Additionally, the Forest Service did not consider certain 
costs in calculating competitive-sourcing savings and as a result could 
not provide Congress with an accurate measure of the savings produced 
by its competitive-sourcing program during this time. We recommended 
that the agency take several actions to improve its management of the 
program. The program's future, however, now appears uncertain.[Footnote 
21] 

The Forest Service Has Struggled with Financial and Performance 
Accountability: 

Over the years, the Forest Service has struggled to provide adequate 
financial and performance accountability. Regarding financial 
accountability, the agency has had shortcomings in its internal 
controls and has had difficulty generating accurate financial 
information. Regarding its performance, the agency has not always been 
able to provide Congress and the public with a clear understanding of 
what its 30,000 employees accomplish with the approximately $5 billion 
the agency receives every year. 

Financial Accountability Concerns Include Internal Control Weaknesses: 

Our long-standing concerns over the Forest Service's financial 
accountability resulted in our including the agency in our High-Risk 
Series from 1999 through 2004,[Footnote 22] citing, among other issues, 
"a continuing pattern of unfavorable conclusions about the Forest 
Service's financial statements." We also had concerns about internal 
control weaknesses within the agency; in a 2003 report, we noted that 
internal control weaknesses in the Forest Service's purchase card 
program--under which purchase cards are issued to federal employees to 
make official government purchases--left the agency vulnerable to, and 
in some cases resulted in, improper, wasteful, or questionable 
purchases.[Footnote 23] Subsequently, in a 2008 report, we noted that 
internal control weaknesses continued and that from 2000 through 2006 a 
Forest Service employee had embezzled over $642,000 from the Forest 
Service's national fire suppression budget.[Footnote 24] Another area 
where we have raised concerns about the agency's internal controls is 
in the Recreational Fee Demonstration Program, under which the Forest 
Service and other agencies can collect fees for using agency sites, 
including entrance fees for basic admission to an area and user fees 
for specific activities such as camping or boat launching. We reported 
in 2006 that the Forest Service not only lacked adequate controls and 
accounting procedures over collected recreation fees, but also lacked 
effective guidance even for establishing such controls.[Footnote 25] 
The agency has since updated its policies and procedures for handling 
collected recreation fees, although we have not evaluated their 
implementation. 

We removed the Forest Service from our high-risk list in 2005 in 
response to its efforts to resolve many of the financial management 
problems we identified. Nevertheless, the agency continues to struggle 
with financial accountability. In 2007, the Department of Agriculture's 
Inspector General reported that significant deficiencies existed in the 
Forest Service's ability to produce accurate financial information; 
[Footnote 26] in 2008, the Inspector General reported that certain 
deficiencies had been corrected but that others remained[Footnote 27]--
including the agency's failure to comply with the Federal Financial 
Management Improvement Act of 1996.[Footnote 28] 

Performance Accountability Shortcomings Are Long-standing and 
Persistent: 

As with financial accountability, our concerns about the Forest 
Service's performance accountability shortcomings date back over a 
decade. In 2003 we reported that the agency had made little real 
progress in resolving its long-standing performance accountability 
problems--which included its inability to link planning, budgeting, and 
results reporting--and was years away from implementing a credible 
performance accountability system.[Footnote 29] We concluded that the 
agency was essentially in the same position it had been in more than a 
decade earlier--studying how it might achieve performance 
accountability. We recommended that the agency appoint a senior 
executive with decision-making authority and responsibility for 
developing a comprehensive plan to ensure the timely implementation of 
an effective performance accountability system and that the agency 
report annually to Congress on its progress in implementing such a 
system. While the agency responded that it would follow our 
recommendations, problems persisted; in our 2007 survey of federal 
managers' use of performance information in management decision making, 
the Forest Service scored lowest of 29 federal agencies and components 
we surveyed in six of nine key management activities.[Footnote 30] 
Equally troubling are our survey findings related to leadership 
commitment to results-oriented management, which we have identified as 
perhaps the single most important element in successfully implementing 
organizational change. In our survey, we asked federal managers about 
their views on agency leadership's commitment to using performance 
information to guide decision making. Only 21 percent of Forest Service 
managers we surveyed agreed that their agency's leadership demonstrated 
such a commitment to a great or very great extent, compared with 50 
percent of their counterparts in the rest of the federal government. 

More recent work by the Department of Agriculture's Inspector General 
noted that the Forest Service continues to need improvements in its 
management controls to effectively manage resources, measure progress 
toward goals and objectives, and accurately report accomplishments. In 
fact, in 2008--only 7 months ago, and more than 5 years after our 2003 
report on the problem--the Inspector General echoed our earlier 
findings, stating, "Some of these issues have been reported in multiple 
reports for over a decade, but their solutions are still in the study 
and evaluation process by [the Forest Service]."[Footnote 31] 

Emerging Issues Magnify the Need to Address Management Challenges: 

Several emerging issues are likely to have profound implications for 
the agency, complicating its management responsibilities and 
underscoring the importance of addressing the management challenges we 
have highlighted so that the agency is well positioned to meet these 
new issues. Among the most significant: 

Climate change. In August 2007, we reported that according to experts, 
federal land and water resources are vulnerable to a wide range of 
effects from climate change, some of which are already occurring. 
[Footnote 32] These effects include, among others, (1) physical 
effects, such as droughts, floods, glacial melting, and sea level rise; 
(2) biological effects, such as increases in insect and disease 
infestations, shifts in species distribution, and changes in the timing 
of natural events; and (3) economic and social effects, such as adverse 
impacts on tourism, infrastructure, fishing, and other resource uses. 
These effects are also likely to lead to increased wildland fire 
activity. We noted that federal resource managers, including those at 
the Forest Service, had not yet made climate change a high priority and 
recommended that the Secretary of Agriculture (along with Interior and 
the Department of Commerce) develop clear, written communication to 
resource managers that explains how managers are expected to address 
the effects of climate change, identifies how managers are to obtain 
any site-specific information that may be necessary, and reflects best 
practices shared among the relevant agencies. The Forest Service has 
since issued guidance on incorporating climate change information in 
land management planning activities. 

Increased human settlement in or near wildlands. Rapid development in 
the outlying fringe of metropolitan areas and in rural areas is 
increasing the size of the wildland-urban interface, defined as the 
area where structures and other human development meet or intermingle 
with undeveloped wildland. Experts estimate that almost 60 percent of 
all new housing units built in the 1990s were located in the wildland- 
urban interface and that this growth trend continues. They also 
estimate that more than 30 percent of housing units overall are located 
in the wildland-urban interface, including about 44 million homes in 
the lower 48 states, and that the interface covers about 9 percent of 
the nation's land.[Footnote 33] This development has significant 
implications for wildland fire management because it places more 
structures at risk from wildland fire at the same time that it 
increases the complexity and cost of wildland fire suppression. Other 
land management challenges result as well; for example, as we reported 
in 2008, private subdivisions may seek access across public lands via 
roads that were not designed for public use, complicating agency 
management of those lands.[Footnote 34] And researchers have also noted 
that the wildland-urban interface is an area of widespread habitat 
fragmentation, introduction of invasive species, and biodiversity loss, 
further adding to the agency's land management challenges. 

The aging of the federal workforce. Earlier this year we reported on 
the looming challenge facing federal agencies as retirements of federal 
workers threaten to leave critical gaps in leadership and institutional 
knowledge.[Footnote 35] In fact, we reported that about one-third of 
federal career employees on board at the end of fiscal year 2007 were 
eligible to retire by 2012, a trend especially pronounced among the 
agencies' executives and supervisors--with nearly two-thirds of career 
executives projected to be eligible for retirement by 2012. Facing such 
a potential exodus of its most experienced employees, the Forest 
Service--like other federal agencies--will need to focus on strategic 
workforce planning to help forecast who might retire, when they might 
retire, and the impact of their retirement on the agency's mission and, 
using this information, develop appropriate strategies to address 
workforce gaps. 

Our nation's long-term fiscal condition. We have reported that our 
nation, facing large and growing structural deficits, is on an 
unsustainable long-term fiscal path.[Footnote 36] As a result, all 
federal agencies may be called upon to carry out their responsibilities 
with static or even shrinking budgets over the long term--making it 
especially important that the Forest Service address the challenges we 
have identified and ensure that it is spending its limited budget 
effectively and efficiently. Effective and efficient spending will also 
be critical in the short term, as the agency identifies projects to 
undertake with funds provided under the American Recovery and 
Reinvestment Act of 2009.[Footnote 37] 

Concluding Observations: 

Mr. Chairman, these issues are not new. In fact, not only are we 
repeating many of the same issues we have brought up over the years, 
but some of our concerns date back well over a decade. The Forest 
Service's mission is, without question, a difficult one: managing 
millions of acres of diverse lands for often competing purposes while 
ensuring that current uses do not impair long-term productivity. This 
is an enormous and complex task, and we do not seek to minimize its 
difficulty. Nevertheless, the repetitive and persistent nature of the 
shortcomings we and others have surfaced over the years points to the 
Forest Service's failure to fully resolve--perhaps even to fully grasp-
-its problems. Absent better data, better internal controls and 
accountability, and a more strategic approach to wildland fire, the 
agency cannot hope to improve upon its performance--and may ultimately 
be unable to respond effectively to the new challenges it faces. If, on 
the other hand, the Forest Service is to face these challenges head-on, 
it will require a sustained commitment by agency leadership to rooting 
out and resolving the agency's long-standing problems. As a new 
administration takes office and begins to chart the agency's course, it 
will be important for Congress and the Forest Service to remain 
vigilant in focusing on these issues. 

Mr. Chairman, this concludes my prepared statement. I would be pleased 
to answer any questions that you or other Members of the Subcommittee 
may have at this time. 

GAO Contacts and Staff Acknowledgments: 

For further information about this testimony, please contact me at 
(202) 512-3841 or nazzaror@gao.gov. Contact points for our Offices of 
Congressional Relations and Public Affairs may be found on the last 
page of this statement. Key contributors to this testimony include 
Steve Gaty, Assistant Director; David P. Bixler; Arthur W. Brouk; 
Andrea Wamstad Brown; Ellen W. Chu; Laura Craig; Elizabeth Curda; 
Jonathan Dent; Charles T. Egan; Barry Grinnell; Richard P. Johnson; and 
Jack Warner. 

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Related GAO Products: 

Wildland Fire: 

Wildland Fire Management: Interagency Budget Tool Needs Further 
Development to Fully Meet Key Objectives. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-09-68]. Washington, D.C.: November 24, 
2008. 

Wildland Fire Management: Federal Agencies Lack Key Long-and Short-Term 
Management Strategies for Using Program Funds Effectively. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-433T]. Washington, D.C.: February 
12, 2008. 

Wildland Fire Management: Better Information and a Systematic Process 
Could Improve Agencies' Approach to Allocating Fuel Reduction Funds and 
Selecting Projects. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-1168]. Washington, D.C.: September 
28, 2007. 

Wildland Fire Management: Lack of Clear Goals or a Strategy Hinders 
Federal Agencies' Efforts to Contain the Costs of Fighting Fires. 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-655]. Washington, D.C.: 
June 1, 2007. 

Wildland Fire Management: Update on Federal Agency Efforts to Develop a 
Cohesive Strategy to Address Wildland Fire Threats. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-671R]. Washington, D.C.: May 1, 
2006. 

Wildland Fire Management: Important Progress Has Been Made, but 
Challenges Remain to Completing a Cohesive Strategy. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-05-147]. Washington, D.C.: January 14, 
2005. 

Wildland Fires: Forest Service and BLM Need Better Information and a 
Systematic Approach for Assessing the Risks of Environmental Effects. 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-04-705]. Washington, D.C.: 
June 24, 2004. 

Wildfire Suppression: Funding Transfers Cause Project Cancellations and 
Delays, Strained Relationships, and Management Disruptions. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-04-612]. Washington, D.C.: June 2, 
2004. 

Wildland Fire Management: Additional Actions Required to Better 
Identify and Prioritize Lands Needing Fuels Reduction. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-805]. Washington, D.C.: August 15, 
2003. 

Western National Forests: A Cohesive Strategy Is Needed to Address 
Catastrophic Wildfire Threats. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO/RCED-99-65]. Washington, D.C.: April 2, 
1999. 

Program and Cost Data: 

Federal Land Management: Use of Stewardship Contracting Is Increasing, 
but Agencies Could Benefit from Better Data and Contracting Strategies. 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-09-23]. Washington, D.C.: 
November 13, 2008. 

Forest Service: Better Planning, Guidance, and Data Are Needed to 
Improve Management of the Competitive Sourcing Program. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-195]. Washington, D.C.: January 22, 
2008. 

Federal Timber Sales: Forest Service Could Improve Efficiency of Field- 
Level Timber Sales Management by Maintaining More Detailed Data. 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-764]. Washington, D.C.: 
June 27, 2007. 

Managerial Cost Accounting Practices: Department of Agriculture and the 
Department of Housing and Urban Development. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-1002R]. Washington, D.C.: September 
21, 2006. 

Wildland Fire Rehabilitation and Restoration: Forest Service and BLM 
Could Benefit from Improved Information on Status of Needed Work. 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-670]. Washington, D.C.: 
June 30, 2006. 

Forest Service: Better Data Are Needed to Identify and Prioritize 
Reforestation and Timber Stand Improvement Needs. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-05-374]. Washington, D.C.: April 15, 
2005. 

Financial Management: Annual Costs of Forest Service's Timber Sales 
Program Are Not Determinable. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-01-1101R]. Washington, D.C.: September 
21, 2001. 

Financial and Performance Accountability: 

Government Performance: Lessons Learned for the Next Administration on 
Using Performance Information to Improve Results. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-1026T]. Washington, D.C.: July 24, 
2008. 

Governmentwide Purchase Cards: Actions Needed to Strengthen Internal 
Controls to Reduce Fraudulent, Improper, and Abusive Purchases. 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-333]. Washington, D.C.: 
March 14, 2008. 

Recreation Fees: Agencies Can Better Implement the Federal Lands 
Recreation Enhancement Act and Account for Fee Revenues. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-1016]. Washington, D.C.: September 
22, 2006. 

High-Risk Series: An Update. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-05-207]. Washington, D.C.: January 
2005. 

Department of Agriculture: Status of Efforts to Address Major Financial 
Management Challenges. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-871T[. Washington, D.C.: June 10, 
2003. 

Forest Service Purchase Cards: Internal Control Weaknesses Resulted in 
Instances of Improper, Wasteful, and Questionable Purchases. 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-786]. Washington, D.C.: 
August 11, 2003. 

Forest Service: Little Progress on Performance Accountability Likely 
Unless Management Addresses Key Challenges. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-503]. Washington, D.C.: May 1, 2003. 

High-Risk Series: An Update. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-119]. Washington, D.C.: January 
2003. 

High-Risk Series: An Update. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-01-263]. Washington, D.C.: January 
2001. 

High-Risk Series: An Update. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO/HR-99-1]. Washington, D.C.: January 
1999. 

Emerging Issues: 

Older Workers: Enhanced Communication among Federal Agencies Could 
Improve Strategies for Hiring and Retaining Experienced Workers. 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-09-206]. Washington, D.C.: 
February 24, 2009. 

Proposed Easement Amendment Agreement between the Department of 
Agriculture and Plum Creek Timber Co. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/decisions/other/B-317292]. Washington, D.C.: October 
10, 2008. 

Long-Term Fiscal Outlook: Long-Term Federal Fiscal Challenge Driven 
Primarily by Health Care. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-912T]. Washington, D.C.: June 17, 
2008. 

Climate Change: Agencies Should Develop Guidance for Addressing the 
Effects on Federal Land and Water Resources. [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-863]. Washington, D.C.: August 7, 
2007. 

[End of section] 

Footnotes: 

[1] See the list of related GAO products at the end of this statement. 
We conducted our work in accordance with all sections of GAO's Quality 
Assurance Framework that were relevant to the objectives of each 
engagement. The framework requires that we plan and perform each 
engagement to obtain sufficient and appropriate evidence to meet our 
stated objectives and to discuss any limitations in our work. We 
believe that the information and data obtained, and the analyses 
conducted, provided a reasonable basis for the findings and conclusions 
in each report. 

[2] These figures are in 2007 dollars. We adjusted the 1999 
appropriated dollars using the chain-weighted gross domestic product 
price index with fiscal year 2007 as the base year. 

[3] We are currently reviewing recent Forest Service and Interior 
actions to address our past findings related to wildland fire 
management and expect to issue a report later this year. 

[4] GAO, Western National Forests: A Cohesive Strategy Is Needed to 
Address Catastrophic Wildfire Threats, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO/RCED-99-65] (Washington, D.C.: Apr. 2, 
1999). 

[5] GAO, Wildland Fire Management: Important Progress Has Been Made, 
but Challenges Remain to Completing a Cohesive Strategy, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-05-147] (Washington, D.C.: Jan. 14, 
2005). 

[6] GAO, Wildland Fire Management: Lack of Clear Goals or a Strategy 
Hinders Federal Agencies' Efforts to Contain the Costs of Fighting 
Fires, [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-655] (Washington, 
D.C.: June 1, 2007), and Wildland Fire Management: Federal Agencies 
Lack Key Long-and Short-Term Management Strategies for Using Program 
Funds Effectively, [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-433T] 
(Washington, D.C.: Feb. 12, 2008). 

[7] GAO, Wildland Fire Management: Better Information and a Systematic 
Process Could Improve Agencies' Approach to Allocating Fuel Reduction 
Funds and Selecting Projects, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-1168] (Washington, D.C.: Sept. 28, 
2007), and GAO-08-433T . 

[8] GAO, Wildland Fire Management: Interagency Budget Tool Needs 
Further Development to Fully Meet Key Objectives, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-09-68] (Washington, D.C.: Nov. 24, 
2008). 

[9] As we have reported previously, FPA is critical to developing a 
cohesive strategy. See, for example, GAO, Wildland Fire Management: 
Update on Federal Agency Efforts to Develop a Cohesive Strategy to 
Address Wildland Fire Threats, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-671R] (Washington, D.C.: May 1, 
2006). 

[10] GAO, Wildfire Suppression: Funding Transfers Cause Project 
Cancellations and Delays, Strained Relationships, and Management 
Disruptions, [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-04-612] 
(Washington, D.C.: June 2, 2004). 

[11] GAO, Forest Service: Better Data Are Needed to Identify and 
Prioritize Reforestation and Timber Stand Improvement Needs, 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-05-374] (Washington, D.C.: 
Apr. 15, 2005). 

[12] GAO, Wildland Fire Rehabilitation and Restoration: Forest Service 
and BLM Could Benefit from Improved Information on Status of Needed 
Work, [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-670] (Washington, 
D.C.: June 30, 2006). 

[13] GAO, Federal Land Management: Use of Stewardship Contracting Is 
Increasing, but Agencies Could Benefit from Better Data and Contracting 
Strategies, [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-09-23] 
(Washington, D.C.: Nov. 13, 2008). 

[14] Contracts are used to purchase goods and services for the direct 
benefit of the government or to sell government property, such as 
timber, and are mutually binding legal relationships obligating the 
seller to furnish supplies or services and the buyer to pay for them. 
In contrast, agreements are typically used to transfer a thing of value 
to a state or local government, or other recipient, to carry out a 
public purpose--often for projects that are for the mutual interest and 
benefit of the government and a cooperating organization such as a 
nonprofit organization or a state or local government. 

[15] GAO, Managerial Cost Accounting Practices: Department of 
Agriculture and the Department of Housing and Urban Development, 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-1002R] (Washington, 
D.C.: Sept. 21, 2006). 

[16] GAO, Financial Management: Annual Costs of Forest Service's Timber 
Sales Program Are Not Determinable, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-01-1101R] (Washington, D.C.: Sept. 21, 
2001). 

[17] GAO, Forest Service: Little Progress on Performance Accountability 
Likely Unless Management Addresses Key Challenges, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-503] (Washington, D.C.: May 1, 
2003). 

[18] GAO, Federal Timber Sales: Forest Service Could Improve Efficiency 
of Field-Level Timber Sales Management by Maintaining More Detailed 
Data, [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-764] (Washington, 
D.C.: June 27, 2007). 

[19] Within the Forest Service's appropriations, there are several 
programs, or "budget line items," related to timber sales; most sales 
are funded through the Forest Products program. 

[20] GAO, Forest Service: Better Planning, Guidance, and Data Are 
Needed to Improve Management of the Competitive Sourcing Program, 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-195] (Washington, D.C.: 
Jan. 22, 2008). 

[21] An omnibus appropriations bill for 2009, H.R. 1105, § 414, 
provides that "None of the funds made available by this or any other 
Act may be used in fiscal year 2009 for competitive sourcing studies 
and any related activities involving Forest Service personnel." A 
similar provision appeared in the Consolidated Appropriations Act for 
fiscal year 2008, Pub. L. No.110-161, § 415, 121 Stat. 2148 (2007). 

[22] GAO, High-Risk Series: An Update, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO/HR-99-1] (Washington, D.C.: Jan. 1999); 
High-Risk Series: An Update, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-01-263] (Washington, D.C.: Jan. 2001); 
High-Risk Series: An Update, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-119] (Washington, D.C.: Jan. 2003); 
High-Risk Series: An Update, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-05-207] (Washington, D.C.: Jan. 2005). 

[23] GAO, Forest Service Purchase Cards: Internal Control Weaknesses 
Resulted in Instances of Improper, Wasteful, and Questionable 
Purchases, [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-786] 
(Washington, D.C.: Aug. 11, 2003). 

[24] GAO, Governmentwide Purchase Cards: Actions Needed to Strengthen 
Internal Controls to Reduce Fraudulent, Improper, and Abusive 
Purchases, [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-333] 
(Washington, D.C.: Mar. 14, 2008). 

[25] GAO, Recreation Fees: Agencies Can Better Implement the Federal 
Lands Recreation Enhancement Act and Account for Fee Revenues, 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-1016] (Washington, D.C.: 
Sept. 22, 2006). 

[26] Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, Audit 
Report: Forest Service's Financial Statements for Fiscal Years 2007 and 
2006, 08401-8-FM (Washington, D.C., Nov. 2007). 

[27] Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, Audit 
Report: Forest Service's Financial Statements for Fiscal Years 2008 and 
2007, 08401-9-FM (Washington, D.C., Nov. 2008). 

[28] The Federal Financial Management Improvement Act of 1996 requires 
that agencies implement and maintain financial management systems that 
substantially comply with (1) federal financial management system 
requirements, (2) federal accounting standards, and (3) the U.S. 
Government Standard General Ledger. The act also requires GAO to report 
annually on the agencies' implementation of it; see, for example, GAO, 
Financial Management: Persistent Financial Management Systems Issues 
Remain for Many CFO Act Agencies, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-1018] (Washington, D.C.: Sept. 30, 
2008). 

[29] [hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-503]. 

[30] These included activities such as adopting new program approaches 
or changing work processes, refining program performance measures, and 
setting new or revising existing performance goals. See GAO, Government 
Performance: Lessons Learned for the Next Administration on Using 
Performance Information to Improve Results, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-1026T] (Washington, D.C.: July 24, 
2008). 

[31] Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, Management 
Challenges (Washington, D.C., Aug. 2008). 

[32] GAO, Climate Change: Agencies Should Develop Guidance for 
Addressing the Effects on Federal Land and Water Resources, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-863] (Washington, D.C.: Aug. 7, 
2007). 

[33] In addition to housing, other types of infrastructure are located 
in the wildland-urban interface, including power lines, oil and gas 
wells, and campgrounds and other recreation facilities. 

[34] GAO, Proposed Easement Amendment Agreement between the Department 
of Agriculture and Plum Creek Timber Co., [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/decisions/other/B-317292] (Washington, D.C.: Oct. 
10, 2008). 

[35] GAO, Older Workers: Enhanced Communication among Federal Agencies 
Could Improve Strategies for Hiring and Retaining Experienced Workers, 
[hyperlink, http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-09-206] (Washington, D.C.: 
Feb. 24, 2009). 

[36] See, for example, GAO, Long-Term Fiscal Outlook: Long-Term Federal 
Fiscal Challenge Driven Primarily by Health Care, [hyperlink, 
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-08-912T] (Washington, D.C.: June 17, 
2008). 

[37] Pub. L. No. 111-5. 

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