From the U.S. Government Accountability Office, www.gao.gov Transcript for: Federal Open Innovation Description: Audio interview by GAO staff with Chris Mihm, Managing Director, Strategic Issues Related GAO Work: GAO-17-14: Open Innovation: Practices to Engage Citizens and Effectively Implement Federal Initiatives Released: October 2016 [ Background Music ] [ Narrator: ] Welcome to GAO's Watchdog Report, your source for news and information from the U.S. Government Accountability Office. It's October 2016. If you've ever gone online to learn more about anything, you've probably heard of Wikipedia. This online encyclopedia harnesses the ideas, expertise, and resources of the entire online community to draft and refine its entries. Such engagement and collaboration is an example of open innovation. Federal agencies are increasingly using similar strategies to address complex challenges. A team lead by Chris Mihm, Managing Director of GAO's Strategic Issues team, recently looked at federal agencies' efforts to use open innovation approaches. Jacques Arsenault sat down with Chris to talk about what they found. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] Can you tell me what open innovation is and how it might benefit the federal government? [ Chris Mihm: ] Of course. The open innovation is a term that's been around for a number of years now, and basically it covers two things. One, it's a set of tools and strategies that organizations, agencies, can use to engage the public and others from the private sector, not-for-profit sector, academia to harness in their ideas, and their expertise, and their perspectives in order to help create public objectives. And so basically, it's opening up government in its decision-making in providing wider avenues for citizen engagement. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] So then, what are some of the kinds of approaches or open innovation tools that federal agencies can use? [ Chris Mihm: ] There's a number of ways, and some of them are going to be quite familiar to people. Things like crowdsourcing, which is basically putting out an idea, having an open call for voluntary assistance on a problem, and letting the public and other experts kind of weigh in with some answers. There are things like open data collaboration and things like, you know, prize challenges in which you actually offer a prize to an individual or groups that help with a solution with a particular problem. So there's a variety of different tools that are out there that are being used by government agencies. The key thing here is to, for the agencies to have real clarity on--what's the purpose that they're looking for out of one of these open innovation strategies. It's, you just don't do it because it would be fun or kind of neat to do. You do it because there's a very specific set of questions that you're asking, and that drives which particular tool that you're going to be interested in looking at. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] And were there particular examples that your team found of how agencies are using these specifically? [ Chris Mihm: ] Of course. And let me give you an example from NASA. In March 2015, NASA launched the Asteroid Data Hunter application. Talk about something that's pretty important. I want to know if there's asteroids that are coming towards planet Earth. What this was, this was an app that was built through a NASA challenge and is designed to allow citizen scientists to detect asteroids contributing to and obviously supplementing the professional knowledge within NASA. Likewise, we have over at Open FDA at the Food and Drug Administration, which was launched in 2014. It's an open data platform that FDA uses to make available key databases in a format that allows research and developers to more easily use that data. One of those is obviously the FDA is just providing good government information out there so citizens can use that information. The NASA one is an example of where NASA is saying to citizens and scientists, help us solve a particular problem. There's another one that's, that, you know, we've been particularly impressed with is the Every Day Counts, which is one that the Department of Transportation has. And what this does is that every 2 years since 2009, DOT's Federal Highway Administration has used an Every Day Counts to identify innovations that would improve highway project delivery. And so what they have is they have teams of federal, state, local industry experts implement the chosen ideas through what is called an ideation process, or idea generation process. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] Now you looked at a number of agencies. Can you talk about how different agencies are approaching this differently? [ Chris Mihm: ] What we looked at is six different agencies, and 15 different open innovation initiatives that are consistent with the lists that I mentioned earlier. And what they're doing is this has two purposes. One is that it opens up government, allows citizens more of an opportunity to influence the decision-making and the path that government takes. It also helps the agencies achieve what they want to do. And so it's a bit of a win-win situation in that regard. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] So you mentioned that one of the keys is for agencies to figure out what is the best strategy. So what are some of the things that they can look at when they're trying to develop that approach? [ Chris Mihm: ] Well, the first thing that they want to do in thinking about the big purpose, they want to identify, what's the purpose that you're actually going here with? And so if you're looking at collecting information and perspectives, that takes you down one set of strategies that you may want to consider. If you're looking in order to increase public awareness for something, basically getting the public to know more about what you're doing and the opportunities that the agency has, that leads you down a different strategy. If you have a particular scientific problem or public policy problem that you want to bring together public expertise, scientific expertise, that could be a different strategy that you would use. So the first thing we found is that the agencies really need to think about what's the purpose, and then that drives the strategy. The second, and related to that, is they want to make sure that they have the capabilities in order to effectively manage these things. And so they're not zero cost. They are very helpful in the end. Nobody told us that, oh, this was a waste of our time. We don't want to do this. But they're not zero cost. They require some talent on the part of the agencies, follow-through, structure in the open government initiative. So those are the two big things. You want to make sure you have clarity on the purpose, and you want to make sure you have the capability in order to execute on that purpose. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] And so finally then, what would you say is the bottom line of this report? [ Chris Mihm: ] The bottom line is that this is another tool and strategy that agencies can use in order to provide citizens with an opportunity to be involved in government decision-making while at the same time helping to make and achieve the agency missions and the agency goals. [ Background Music ] [Narrator:] To learn more, visit GAO.gov and be sure to tune in to the next episode of GAO's Watchdog Report for more from the congressional watchdog, the U.S. Government Accountability Office.